An Interview with Dr. Marijah McCain
about the many benefits of Essiac Tea
By Lanny Messinger
Dr. Marijah McCain is a naturopath, master herbalist, homeopath and research microscopist with a following of a quarter million students and customers. My initial interest in interviewing Dr. McCain concerned a four-herb formula called Essiac. Dr. McCain covered the following topics in her interview:
ESSIAC FOR SKIN PROBLEMS
ESSIAC FOR DETOXIFICATION
ESSIAC IS NON TOXIC
ESSIAC AND CHEMOTHERAPY
ESSIAC, ARTHRITIS AND OXALIC ACID
ESSIAC AND DIABETES
ESSIAC AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM
ESSIAC AND DEPRESSION
ESSIAC AND ASTHMA
SURVIVING WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
Lanny: “How long have you been using Essiac?”
Dr. McCain: “I would guess probably about seven years. I made it available for my students to try. I didn’t come right out and say it was going to be any good. I asked my students if they wanted to give it a try. My students started to try it and the feedback was just absolutely unbelievable.”
Lanny: “What kind of feedback did you get?”
ESSIAC FOR SKIN PROBLEMS
Dr. McCain: “The very first call I got was from a chiropractor who had a patient that had psoriasis for eight years. And she just put the patient on it because she just decided she’d give it a shot and it cleared up the psoriasis. They had never been able to clear up the psoriasis in eight years. So the first testimonials were not cancer testimonials. The first testimonials were actually skin problem testimonials, which was really remarkable. The first cancer testimonial I had was from a man in Arkansas and he had terminal lung cancer. One of my students had given him the tea to try and it had cured his lung cancer and he had done nothing else. There was no other supplements taken—nothing else—all he did was take the tea. And I thought: Oh, my Goodness, we’re seriously on to something here. So then in the next newsletter, with about six or seven testimonials that I had in hand from my students, I said okay I’m going to offer this. I’m not going to make any claims on it, but if you guys want to try it here it is, and it just went berserk. We sent out testimonial sheets for about the first five years every time we sent out the tea. I have testimonial sheets that would fill a closet on this tea. It was really shocking to me because it wasn’t just the cancer and I couldn’t understand how come we were getting so many different testimonials. We had one lady call in. She had these awful white patches all over her skin and she took the tea and the white patches turned hard and they all peeled off and her skin went back to normal. Which was really remarkable because she had that for years and years. We had another elderly person who had lost all their hair. They took the tea, the hair grew back, but not only did the hair grow back, the hair grew back brown. When they lost their hair, it was gray.
“These testimonials were blowing my mind because I was trying to figure out what in the world this tea was doing in order to have such broad-based positive health effects on so many different things. So I started to investigate, seriously, the burdock root—see what was in it. Everybody reported better energy when they took the tea. Well, come to find out burdock root is very high in iron, in natural iron that is easily assimilable in the body. So that was good. It was a blood builder, but the primary function of it is that it is a liver cleanser. The liver, of course, filters the blood system and when it’s toxic, the immune system starts to fail. This is what was so profound about this tea because as soon as you started to cleanse the liver the immune system would kick in and it would pretty much fix whatever the problem was in the person. That’s what I found so mind-boggling about this tea. It wasn’t just for cancer; it’s our number one formula now that we use for any kind of skin ailment, hives, psoriasis, especially acne. It works wonders with acne because the skin is the last eliminatory organ. So when the liver is toxic, the poisons start coming out the skin. As soon as you detox the liver, the skin goes back to normal. I’ve got years and years of experience with this. It’s just mind-boggling.”
ESSIAC FOR DETOXIFICATION
Lanny: “What other conditions does Essiac help?”
Dr. McCain: “I had a little guy, a child that was seriously poisoned with SEVIN dust [a garden pesticide]. What happened was this child got very, very ill—been to all the doctors and everything—and they had called me and she described the symptoms. And I had said to her: Listen, it sounds to me like there is some type of poisoning with this child. They had tried every antibiotic, everything with this kid, and the kid was just getting sicker and sicker and sicker. I put the child on the four-herb tea and that was it. Once the chemicals were detoxed out of the body the child recovered and came back to normal. So there was a case where the child was poisoned with a chemical poisoning and it was affecting the liver and the blood system and the neurological system. The child was having neurological symptoms as well. So those types of poisonings—chemical, pesticides, that type of thing that localize in the liver—the four-herb tea helps those as well. Which is pretty remarkable.
“And also I don’t know if you want to mention this or not, because it is very, very controversial, but I have had an awful lot of children who had been given the MMR vaccine and DPT shots and they have manifested symptoms to the extreme of autism where they can’t talk any more and they have serious learning disorders. I formulated homeopathic formulas to counter-balance these vaccines, but I also put these children on the four-herb tea. And my most dramatic case was a case in China where the child, after having received the vaccine, quit speaking, would run around on his tippy-toes, bang his head up against the wall. It was a very, very sad case because the child was normal before they got the vaccine. It took about ten months. I worked with these people. As a matter of fact that was what sparked me to have the MMR detox made up, the actual homeopathic done. And I had sent that over to China and we eventually restored that child to health. But part of the protocol was using the four-herb tea. I did use some other things as well. These are very, very dramatic cases where the medical doctors have no solutions whatsoever.”
Lanny: “Yeah, except drugs.”
Dr. McCain: “Well, yeah, that child would have been institutionalized. They would have had to lock that child up. So I really went out of my way to try to save that child and since then have saved a lot of children.
NO TOXICITY PROBLEMS WITH ESSIAC
“I’ve got to tell you this about the toxicity levels of it [Essiac]. When we very first started making the tea, I got an emergency phone call. A parent had made the tea and put it in the refrigerator and had left the house with a babysitter and a six-month old baby. Well, the babysitter thought it was iced tea, went into the frig and filled up an eight-ounce bottle, gave it to the six-month old baby--that’s an eight-ounce bottle of four-herb tea, straight (i.e., undiluted)—and drank two glasses herself. The parent called me, absolutely flipped out of their mind, okay. We monitored the baby for two days—absolutely no toxic side effect at all. So there is the testimonial on the toxicity. No toxicity from this product [Essiac]. We have never, ever, not one time in all these years, had a toxic reaction to that tea. Not one.
ESSIAC AND CHEMOTHERAPY
“It’s unbelievable. The worse thing that happened is that we’ve had people that have had a lot of drugs, a lot of chemotherapy, etcetera, they’ll start off on the tea three times a day, they might get a mild headache because the body is detoxing so quickly. We back them up; we tell them to start off just once a day and build up to it over a couple of weeks. But that’s the very worse thing. And we’ve given it to so many people and people have given it to dogs and cats and you name it over the years. We’ve sold thousands and thousands and thousands of packages of this tea and have had tremendous amounts of feedback and so I’m very, very familiar with this tea. The original instructions were two ounces in a little bit of warm water three times a day. We have increased that because we know there’s no toxicity, so we do tell people if they want to they can increase it to four or five times a day. I had one lady who had breast cancer who called me and said she drank a quart a day. And she did heal herself of breast cancer, by the way, but she was drinking a tremendous amount more than what the recommended doses were. So people do what they want even if you do give them instructions, but I wouldn’t recommend that because people take a lot more supplements now. When we very first started out with this tea, that was all we had and mostly people just took the tea. Now we have a lot of other things, people are much more educated—the antioxidants and they added a lot of other things as well. You can overwhelm the body when it’s trying to heal itself, if you add too many things.”
ESSIAC, ARTHRITIS AND OXALIC ACID
Lanny: “Some people bring up the oxalic acid in sheep sorel…”
Dr. McCain: “I believe that’s in the turkey rhubarb as well. The only thing that is contraindicated for is an arthritic-type condition, an acidic condition. Interestingly enough, in my research most people with cancer do not have arthritis and vice versa. That’s not a law, but it’s pretty common, a general trend. We don’t normally recommend the tea for arthritic conditions because we’ve got so many other things that benefit arthritis much better. And if they do have to take the tea, we recommend that they just add in a calcium supplement, that’s all. Because an arthritic condition is an acidic condition and the oxalic acid makes it a little bit acidic. It can aggravate it [Essiac] a little bit, but it’s not harmful; it just doesn’t cure it. People report that they’re a little stiffer, so we supplement calcium and we don’t have a problem with the stiffness. It’s just the stiffness. They get pain--when they get arthritis they ache. The calcium counterbalances that. That’s what an arthritic condition is, is the body is not getting enough calcium and is pulling calcium from the bones. So you have to supplement calcium and then you don’t have a problem, unless it’s an arthritic condition caused by infection. There’s a couple different causes, but most common is lack of calcium.”
ESSIAC AND DIABETES
Lanny: “Have you noticed a lot of people with diabetes with testimonials about Essiac?”
Dr. McCain: “Absolutely. The four-herb tea was really good. As a matter of fact we had to put a warning in there. People who were on insulin that were taking the tea needed to monitor their blood sugar because sometimes the pancreas would kick back in, but not all the time it would. Let’s say, for instance, the person had been on insulin for fifteen years. The chances of the pancreas kicking back in are going to be a lot slimmer than if a person has just come down with diabetes. Follow? Let’s hypothetically say this person is on a fixed dose of insulin a day and we do give them the tea and the pancreas does start to kick in. They’ve got to monitor that sugar, otherwise they will get an insulin shock because their body does not need that much insulin. Any time we give it to a diabetic patient we have to make sure that they watch their sugar because if their sugar drops down they don’t need to be taking their massive doses of their drugs. They’ve got to be careful. Follow? The tea did in fact sometimes make very radical improvements in people that were diabetics. We’ve had people come off the insulin with the Essiac, but those are people who are very strict about not eating sugar. The problem with diabetics is that they go to their doctor and the doctor tells them that they’re diabetic and they give them insulin shots and they go home and eat their Twinkies. They continue to eat sugar, that’s where the problem is. They’ve got to stop eating sugar. And the people that will quit eating sugar, change their diet and then work with the tea and some other supplements like vanadium. They found that vanadium is deficient in diabetics. The chromium picolinate really helps. If they will work with their supplements they can reverse it. But they can’t reverse it if they won’t change their diet. [Dr. Banting, a co-discover of insulin, also found a correlation between Essiac, insulin, and the pancreas.]
ESSIAC AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM
“We have people that are perfectly healthy take it [Essiac] just as a maintenance and they’ll swear that they don’t get colds any more. They’ll swear that they feel better. They take it just once a day. Another thing is longevity. I have a customer who had terminal cancer in 1996 and he started taking the four-herb tea. They had given him a very short time to live and this is 2003. You could never convince this man to stop taking the tea. So people ask me if it’s safe for long-term use. You bet.
ESSIAC AND DEPRESSION
"We’re in some serious, troubled times and this government and this medical system, etc., they’re not her to save people, I can tell you that. That much I know. People have got to save themselves. And the problem is they get so depressed.
“That’s another thing. I’ve got to tell you—make sure you put this in your article because this is so important now. Depression—the liver works with the chemical balances, the chemical balances in the body. And the doctors tell you it’s the brain that gets chemically imbalanced. But it actually has to do with the liver and the toxicity levels. So we have worked with this four-herb tea [Essiac] with so many people that are suffering from depression—serious, serious depression—and it will bring them right out of it once they detox. Let’s hypothetically say—God forbid—let’s take an example of a person whose mother just drops dead or is murdered. They go into such a terrible state of shock. They cry for days. The body releases all these chemicals and it poisons the system. [Toxins are stored in the fat tissues in the body and can be released at any time.] It poisons the body. They become lethargic, they become depressed, they won’t get out of the bed. They go to the doctor. The doctor says you need Prozac, you need this, you need that, and they keep poisoning the body. The body keeps getting poisoned until they eventually become suicidal and sometimes they even have to be institutionalized. At any point in time in that scenario if you will put them on the four-herb tea, they will see an immediate improvement within two weeks. They will start to feel better. Their brains will start to clear. They will have more energy. They’ll start to get their lives back and then you start to add in some other supplements. But I have brought people back from just the edge of what I would call ‘darkness’. Because I do understand that it’s a poison situation. They’ve actually poisoned themselves. Do you follow me?”
ESSIAC AND ASTHMA
Lanny: “I’ve been there. I had very serious, chronic asthma and those inhalers were poisoning me. I didn’t realize it until I went off the inhalers. The first thing I did was move out of the city and the pollution, then I could breathe better, immediately. Then I started taking St. John’s wort because I read where it was good for asthma. After several months on the St. John’s wort, I went off the inhalers. I really didn’t do anything else.”
Dr. McCain: “Well, see, St. John’s wort is also a liver cleanser. It’s primary action is to cleanse the liver. So there you have a liver cleanser working again. This is why it’s so valuable, the St. John’s wort.”
Lanny: “Well, I finally went off the inhalers. But before that the doctors wanted to put me on Prozac as a solution to counteract the symptoms I was having from the toxins in the inhalers. Now I just drink Essiac tea every day and I haven't had any problems with asthma.” [Also, Dr. Gary Glum successfully treated his chronic bronchitis with Essiac.]
SURVIVING WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
Dr. McCain: “In order to survive, the people—what I call the remnant, or the people that really will survive—are the ones that are going to be able to pull themselves up and look after themselves and understand these principles. God really moved me to help save the remnant. That was why I started this whole business. That’s why I started with herbology to teach people how to use the herbs, teach them how to grow them, teach them how to put them in their back yard so they could look after themselves. And this was twenty years ago I had this burden. I saw it coming.”
I asked Dr. McCain what herbs or supplements are most effective in surviving weapons of mass destruction. She indicated that colloidal silver would be at the top of the list because of its antimicrobial properties. Olive leaf extract is second on the list because of its antiviral properties. The four-herb tea is necessary to detoxify the liver, kidneys, etc. Dr. McCain indicated that other microbials such as grapefruit seed extract and oil of oregano are also very effective.
Dr. McCain: “For instance, let’s take smallpox as an example. Smallpox is a virus. I wouldn’t stake my life on colloidal silver with smallpox. I would use colloidal silver as well as the antivirals. Olive leaf was tested in Israel and was even found to nail polio one, two and three. And it was found to nail most of the influenzas that they researched. So this is a very powerful anti-viral and smallpox is a virus. Now you take anthrax, a simple bacteria, which is nailed very quickly with a pharmaceutical grade colloidal silver. But let me tell you how the four-herb tea fits into this. Let’s say you get exposed to smallpox today. You have virtually no symptoms for a couple of days. You might feel like you have a little bit of flu, but it will go back down in the body where you won’t really manifest anything for maybe seven days. In that seven days that virus is replicating in your body and by the time you start to get a rash it has completely taken over the liver and the kidneys. The liver and the kidneys are so toxic that the toxins are starting to come out the skin and this is why you’re getting the skin rash. So what I say is if there is any chance of exposure you want to be on the four-herb tea immediately. Keep that liver and those kidneys detoxing. Get your antiviral in there—your olive leaf extract and your colloidal silver. Make sure that you don’t have any constipation—that everything is flowing through and you won’t get deathly sick; it’s impossible. Because it’s just a virus and if you allow it to replicate in there it’s liable to kill you. But if you don’t and you get after it and you push it through, it won’t. Do you understand what I am saying? So this is where the value of the four-herb tea comes in. Because the four-herb tea helps cleanse the liver and takes the load out of the system.”
Lanny: “Does the olive leaf extract keep the virus from penetrating the cell, like elderberry does?”
Dr. McCain: “No, it stops the virus from replicating. You need something to stop it from replicating because the cells are continually replacing themselves every day—they’re always dying. So if you can stop from replicating, then the cells that are contaminated will die off. This is why we’ve been able to help people with herpes and hepatitis. Over six months to a year we’ve been able to eradicate hepatitis. And the medical doctors say that’s impossible. But antivirals have to be used for long term if you have a chronic virus like HIV, herpes, those types of things. You have to be on them on a regular basis because they’re spurred—like they can sit in the cell for a long time—and they’re spurred by say trauma, shock, upset, emotional, you know, where they have an outbreak, where the virus is opportunistic and it waits until the immune system has been hit and then out it comes. Do you follow?”
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During Dr. McCain's interview she also discussed Essiac tea in relation to chemtrails. To read the rest of the interview, CLICK HERE: ESSIAC AND DETOXIFYING CHEMTRAILS
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